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Juan · Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 153 Location: Colorado

Lets face it folks, we have a problem. There is obviously a problem happening in the Bannana Republics of the Westren Hemisphere. It may be economic it may be political it may even be criminaly driven. One thing is for sure, it is impacting the United States of America.
Asylum is something we grant to politicaly oppressed people, refugee status may be granted for natural, political or economic upheavle with the intent of repatriation. Amnesty is forgiving criminal acts. At least that is the way I see it. Then there is the small matter of invasion and that is a distinct possibility which might also include such small issues as treason and sedation on the part of some of our own citizens.
Somthing is going on and we had best identify it before it swallows up the American dream.
The real battle for America does not lie in the Middle East, it is much closer to home and it is not a repeat of the Iberian invasion of the 1860s when there was land a plenty for the taking.

Just a thought

PS Sorry for the absence but I really got into my new MINI Cooper S. Very Happy

marcy · Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 93

It's nice to see your name again on the board Juan. I feel that things are going to come to head soon.Just talking to people everyday it seems more and more are reconizing all the problems that stem from illegal immigration. What are we going to do? any ideas?Its nice to see you back.

Juan · Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 153 Location: Colorado

It is not unlike the Romans and Visigoths, in many ways we have brought this problem upon ourselves. There is no concise fix. What ever happens is going to be very painful.

Patriot · Site Admin Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 471

The problem we have upfront is that our politicians no longer fear us. The last election did not elect people that would fight amnesty. Most of the people in office now seem content in letting the invasion continue. Perhaps many people do not feel effected by the problem. That is until an illegal kills a member of their family, like the incident that happened in Virginia Beach.

Welcome back Juan.

Patriot

marcy · Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 93

Did you see how people were called racist for bringing up that the man in Virgina Beach was here illegally, People said it was a drunk driving issue, peroid! What ever it was those two girls would be alive today if he had not been in our country illegally! It's not that hard. He had been arrested i believe at least 2 or 3 times before, why was he still here? Cross
Virginia Beach off my list and to think we were considering maybe retiring there. Not any more, What a shame its a really nice area.I feel like we always have to bring the argument back to the fact that they are illegally here. Peroid, end of story.

Patriot · Site Admin Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 471

If you ask me its really simple. If that illegal alien was deported the first time he was arrested, then he would not have been in our country to kill those girls. Period.

Patriot

IChooseFreedom · Joined: 22 Nov 2007 Posts: 11

Are you going to deport the murders and rapists who are legal citizens too?

There are plenty of people here illegally who actually do work hard and are decent people. There are people , familes who are here because they have nothing else and to be deported to Mexico is to starve or die from a disease.
If we fix the problem that came before this problem, it won't be an issue anymore. Mexico's goverment does not care at all, so unless America as a whole will fight the poverty forcing these people to leave then they are still going to want to leave. There are too many people and too many ways to get in so I can think of nothing else that will work. If the people are desperate enough, and I assure you they are, they can find a way to escape. Because for them thats what it is an escape.

Juan · Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 153 Location: Colorado

If they are so desprate to escape evil Mexico then why do they continue to wave her flag.
Mexicos problems are not our problems, no matter how hard working they are (and even that is questionable). Of course if Mexico is out of control perhaphs it's time for the United States to invade and occupy it until a valid, working democracy can be put into place.

IChooseFreedom · Joined: 22 Nov 2007 Posts: 11

No, we definetly do not have the right to invade. If you have a problem with people escaping Mexico then yes it is your problem. Mexico does not have a problem with their people escaping and won't do anything on its own, so the reason your problem exists is the poverty and untill the people have a reason to stay in Mexico they will continue to leave. I would guess they still wave her flag because it is the culture and background of Mexico that they love not the conditions. They want to be proud of their heritage and its not like they can wave the American flag and not spark protests of outrage if they are protesting.

Juan · Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 153 Location: Colorado

I'm going to send my kids to your house for the holidays because I can't or wont buy them gifts. By the way my youngest has a knack of just throwing trash on the floor and he realy doesn't abide by house rules but he is a hard worker. Oh yeah and they do expect an allowance, half of which they are going to send back home to me. That is a very important point because it will make up one fourth of our family income.

Juan · Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 153 Location: Colorado

Pardon the double post but I would like IChooseFreedom to explain to me why the Mexicans have a right to invade us but we do not have a right to invade Mexico.

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IChooseFreedom · Joined: 22 Nov 2007 Posts: 11

Mexico hasn't actually declared war against us and taken over our goverment last time I checked. That is what I consider an invasion.

There's a major difference between alot of people entering our country illegally and their country as a whole invading in a military style fashion and deciding to not let us be a democracy till we fullfill whatever goals or beliefs they believe we should uphold .

Juan · Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 153 Location: Colorado

You obviously don't read the news. The Mexican military has encroached upon U.S. soil several times. The Mexican government has told us how to conduct our government. And the Mexican government has supplied handbooks to its citizens instructing them on how to effectively violate our sovereignty. Our border guards have been attacked with deadly force. Some even killed in the line of duty. They demand thier flag be flown over U.S. soil as the representative banner. They claim the entire Southwestern United States as thier own and demand a new state of Mexico, called Atzlan, be formed from that area.
What part of invasion do you not understand? You need to do a little less running with horses and dancing with wolves and a lot more research.