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The Fox · Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 112

Little wonder they're starting in Japan...the Japanese didn't let PC take their smokes...and they're probably the heaviest smokers in the world...chinese are heavy smokers also.

Bootsie · Joined: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 492

That is THE BEST NEWS I've heard yet. If I could still smoke on a plane, I would take a trip NEXT WEEK. I have been MISERABLE the last two trips I made to Europe because I couldn't smoke. My doctor prescribed a Nicotrol Inhaler which helped a TINY BIT but I was CLIMBING the walls after that long flight! I am TIRED of being discriminated against. They sure didn't stop serving alcohol on those planes and I had to put up with the drunks. I say that they should have to put up with my cigarettes. Until the last few years, Air France still allowed smoking in a small curtained off area but they have stopped too. I will keep my fingers crossed that it will be a success and some smart person will do that here too!!

The Fox · Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 112

I understand that some people do have allergic reactions to cigarette smoke. My own mother tears up if she's in a car with a smoker and all windows are up.

I also know that a lot of businesses lost revenue when they shut out smokers.

I don't mind smoking. All the men in my family smoked and 2 or 3 of the women. We're talking a large family here. No one died of lung cancer. No one died young. Most of those smokers lived to be in their late 80's and early 90's.

What I resented was the government propaganda that 'criminalized' and shamed lots of perfectly nice folks and destroyed an industry. I consider the anti-smoking campaign to be the start of PC. No one dared stand up for a smoker...yeech...

Bootsie · Joined: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 492

So right, Fox. We have been ostracized from the WORLD. My God, it gets ridiculous when you can't even smoke OUTSIDE now in some places. That goes beyond reason.

Dream · Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 427

Yup we are treated like leapars. And it is getting worse. Obesity is treated now as a disease, as alcoholisim is. But, if you smoke that addiction does not count. Your just a filthy uneducated idiot.

Bootsie · Joined: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 492

Then, that's what I am, I reckon!!!!!

The Fox · Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 112

When I was not as tall as the table my grandad and my dad would come back in after morning chores to have breakfast. They'd sit at the big family trestle table and drink coffee and smoke. Grandad would fix a little coffee for me in a saucer ( much like you'd do for a cat, lol) and help me to drink it. I'll never forget the fragrance of fresh coffee, cigarette smoke, leather, horses and honest sweat that surrounded them.

From then till now I love those smells...fresh coffee brewing; a newly lighted cigarette. I still enjoy a cigarette with my coffee and a cigarette after meals. Coffee after dinner also.

I keep some tack, used, here in my office so I can smell my horses and the clean scent of leather. To me that's better than any air freshner.

(fox looks dreamy)

Bootsie · Joined: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 492

OH GOSH, FOX. I'm bringing a saddle in the house first thing tomorrow morning!!! Why have I never thought of that?? My son does keep a saddle in his study. I don't know where I'll put it but you are SO right. THOSE ARE THE SMELLS of pure pleasure.

Juan · Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 153 Location: Colorado

Today is the last day you will be able to smoke at a restaurant or bar in Colorado. We now have a smoke free workplace state. My home is attached to my business so I won't even be able to smoke in my own house. Crying or Very sad

The city of Aurora just East of Denver is passing a sin tax of 1 cent per bottle or can of soda pop. Where did all these nannies come from.

butterbean · Joined: 21 Jun 2006 Posts: 2269

Bootsie · Joined: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 492

I bet you wonder if you had NOT quit, if you still would have gotten cancer or whether the smoking was keeping it at bay! Just teasing about something I shouldn't tease you about, BBean! It's not funny what you've gone through but sometimes it helps to make light of bad situations. OR LIGHT UP DURING BAD SITUATIONS like I do!!!

The Fox · Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 112

I'm an herbalist. I study alternative medicine all the time. The reason I started was b/c I am almost impossible to prescribe allopathic meds for...I'm in more danger from the meds than from whatever I'm being treated for--my son and my sister share this quirk.

Some of the food additives that we ingest from processed foods are more incarcigenic than smoking. Especially that junk they put in diet soft drinks. They know that it causes brain cancer but they continue to allow it to be manufactured anyway.

My cousin was a bit pudgy as an adolescent and began drinking the diet drinks. She continued to do so throughout her lifetime. Which was short. She died at age fifty of brain cancer. She didn't smoke.

I begged her not to drink those but she dismissed me as just an old fuddy duddy.

So sorry about your bout with cancer BB. I trust you are recovered.

butterbean · Joined: 21 Jun 2006 Posts: 2269

Bootsie · Joined: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 492

I have too. I know they say you would have gotten it sooner or some such but I think they same thing about the people I know who have COPD and had quit smoking several years before and they just got worse and worse. Life is a risk.