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butterbean



Joined: 21 Jun 2006
Posts: 2271

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gringogirl wrote:
yes - banning butterbean is like like arresting santa claus- or running over the energizer bunny with your car- unthnkable! Shocked
William will destroy alipac becaue he is more afraid of being challenged then of encouraging creative thinkers- which he needs.
high energy people have minds of their own .
these purges he has every two weeks reminds me of the Stalin era.


GRINGO, WHAT A SWEET THING TO SAY! Wink
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Jezzabell



Joined: 03 Jul 2006
Posts: 72

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I remember swtgram, Several of us were very upset when W posted a whole banned thread on her. And said so in the thread. I later mentioned her again in my resignation letter as another example of unfair treatment as well as the outragious public posting and slander that went on after she and Barkaway were banned.

Recent statement on an alipac thread by W. I guess this applies to his false slander fo those who quite or disagree with him too. :

Quote:
I always keep in mind that it is not the Troll Im trying to persuade.

Over the coming months, many of these threads will be read hundreds and sometimes thousands of times by people passing through our site.

Our messages counter the trolls and should be persuasive to the audience.

W



Recently said to W on Matt site. :


Quote:
hmmm
Mr WG

This is getting interesting.

You state the following with the certainty of a lawyer

"It is not an OPINION if I a person is Xenophobic or involved with white separatist groups."

Accusation of Xenophobia- How is this NOT an opinion? Let me ask...is there a medical test you can take to prove your UN-Xenophobia?

Involvement with white separatist groups? Was there a statement that said "Mr WG belongs to a white separatist group"? I don't know.. I am asking. You are the one taking offense and presenting a case..... the burden of proof is now on you.


"That is either true or not true. In this case, it is not true and its about me and its on this site. Get it?"
If in fact you are this Mr WG and you are head of whatever organization... you really are naive about veracity on the 'net.

And this statement is seriously flawed... or you are not Mr WG...

"Matt.org is hosting information that is false and derrogatory about me and my organization and according to the rules it should not be here.
Also, according to all the advertising on this site it says all sides are welcome. That is obviously not true if false derrogatory information about other leaders and groups is going to be hosted here."

Why... because if you are Mr WG, and are the leader of ALIPAC... you certainly must have little in the way of self control or esteem.. Why would you care what one person said in a board?
Sticks and Stones..my boy...Sticks and Stones...



And finally...

"Hello!?!?!? Knock Knock Knock. This is William Gheen from ALIPAC. Anyone here?
Rule Violation! It's been reported. I like people from other countries. There are Latinos in my life I love! I don't attack ALL Mexicans / Latino writers and organizations! I did not make the comments Dee has attributed to me here from other users! I don't associate with white supremacists! I help LEGAL immigrants everyday! I just came here because I'm being falsely accused of things I did not say or do! Anyone here? Anyone listening?"

If that is the level of sophistication that leaders of the "Closed-Border-English-only-I-don't-understand-my-own-constitution-side" is...well, I severely over-estimated you guys.



You would think W would get the hint after having heard the same discriptions used for his behavior time and time again in the past few months. lol
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cornbread



Joined: 23 Jun 2006
Posts: 112

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found out early on during my time there that if you disagree with him on ANYTHING, you get trashed right out on the open forum. There is no freedom of speech there without banishment sooner or later. I believe the rules are made up as he goes along. Some get by with certain things, others get banned for the same. I am so glad I found this site. I do not feel like I am being watched like a hawk.
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gringogirl



Joined: 29 Jun 2006
Posts: 187
Location: gone

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well butterbean - its easy to say sweet things about someone who is sweet- ,like yourself!
cornbread - I get hungry just looking at your name
as to the BIG W- yes he changed the rules as he went along-he is a mixture of complete rigidness and absolute choas-
great leader Twisted Evil
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rebellady1964



Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 73

PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cornbread wrote:
I found out early on during my time there that if you disagree with him on ANYTHING, you get trashed right out on the open forum. There is no freedom of speech there without banishment sooner or later. I believe the rules are made up as he goes along. Some get by with certain things, others get banned for the same. I am so glad I found this site. I do not feel like I am being watched like a hawk.


Well, hi there CORNBREAD! I am a former alipacer who was accused of being YOU! I have been BANNED for supposedly knowing and being in cohoots with Jezzabell, ConcernedVeteran, and some other person I did not ever speak to until after the crap hit the fan! I have to say this: My time at alipac was up anyway. I did not bow down properly like I was expected to do and I do not take kindly to being accused of things I have not done! I also did not like being told who I could or could not talk to. I felt like I was in prison and my efforts were NEVER appreciated. I stood up to the BEAST and got banned. Guess that's why I've always been called "REBEL" and I am proud of that name, too. Nice to meet you all. And Bootsie, Butterbean, it's nice to be back amongst friends. I hope there are no VULTURES here looming over us like there were at alipac. I hope I have found a good home here. Wink
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cornbread



Joined: 23 Jun 2006
Posts: 112

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello, Rebellady. It's nice to see you here. And I am sorry for your troubles over there. You know: the me=you thing. Let me give you a hint: we are CLOSE friends. You know who I am? Wink
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gringogirl



Joined: 29 Jun 2006
Posts: 187
Location: gone

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

where is bootsie? Sad
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Jezzabell



Joined: 03 Jul 2006
Posts: 72

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rebellady I am glad you found the site. I am very sorry to hear the troublemakers over at Alipac drove you away.

I have no prob saying in public that we have never spoke to each other until now. Not because I ever had anything against you. But just because we never had the opportunity to. Never spoke to Bootsie or Mustang till he followed me to the other website to harrass, threaten and insult me. We spoke after his attacks, after they saw and became outraged at how completely out of control and out of line he was. He really showed his a** there.

I went from a very active member. To a sometimes active, while I watched his public witch hunt and flaming on the board. Banning of more members than I can count. To a polite but, to the point resignation telling him his attitude stinks. To being hunted down on the web and attacked with lies, threats and slander. And open flaming me on his open boards with the same, after I had left.

W and the mindless goones that follow his every whim, are destroying the credibility and hard work of their members over there, faster than they can even recruit new members. It is a shame, on W's part and to see that the "American sheep" woke up only long enough to educate themselves a bit on this one issue, then went back to being nothing but sheep. Allowing themselves to be lead by an internet bully who attacks even thoughs who are in the same fight. I don't know about you but, it Made me question what his "agenda and fight" really was.

Of course as he has in the past, he will blame Alipac's unruley reputation and lose of respect on those who disagree with his actions and his hypocracy, rather than his actions themselves. As they continue to fight the illegal situation without him. Others can remove themselves from his presence and continue on. They saw he was not the movement itself. He is unable to take responsibility for his paranoid , delusional, immature and disrespectful behaviors to others. By refusing to do so, in his mind, he does not have to admit that he is now Alipacs worst enemy. He still believes he IS the movement. That he is Alipac. And that it cannot be done without him. Like all other egotistically demented leaders, it will be W that destroys the organization all by himself with his lack of respect and appreciation, lack of truth, honesty and self control and lack of humility.
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gringogirl



Joined: 29 Jun 2006
Posts: 187
Location: gone

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

brilliantly put Jezebel
did the Great W use the name of Mustang? i missed that fight but was there for many others
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rebellady1964



Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 73

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cornbread wrote:
Hello, Rebellady. It's nice to see you here. And I am sorry for your troubles over there. You know: the me=you thing. Let me give you a hint: we are CLOSE friends. You know who I am? Wink


I do now! Nice to see you again Very Happy
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rebellady1964



Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 73

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jezzabell,
Thanks for the encouragement. I did not know you until now but I am glad we met. I was feeling the same way you described in your post. Things had gotten so PC and everyone was afraid to say anything for the fear of being jumped all over in PM's. I don't know who told W that you and I spoke before the CV thing, it's just a darn out and out LIE. All I did was SIGN UP at that site, I never posted, period. And guess what? I got questioned about it like I was a criminal or something. I don't need another daddy, I already have one. That pi**ed me off! Then the claim made by someone(another LIAR) that I was running around complaining about him not being at that rally, that was PURE BS! As for the liars who told those lies, they can all kiss my REBEL ARSE! Laughing Laughing Laughing Alipac is a good site for info and there are alot of good, hardworking people over there. But if things don't change, more and more are gonna leave over the same ole crap. I'm not knocking alipac, I'm knocking W for being so overbearing and the liars who like to stir up stuff and I believe they do it just to get in good with W, or to get attention. Maybe those people need a daddy Laughing
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Bootsie



Joined: 22 Jun 2006
Posts: 492

PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still here, gringo. For some reason, I'm not getting notices about new posts on this one thread. I just forget to come back and check it. It sure feels good to see so many old friends over here. And, I don't go to bed at night worrying about some little slip-up I might have inadvertantly made and finding myself being castigated on an open forum. Yep-- this is a good new home for us!
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rebellady1964



Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 73

PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bootsie, I sure missed your pig avatars Very Happy . It's nice to get up in the mornings and see their sweet little faces. We raised hogs when I was growing up and I always got attached to them. Come slaughter day, I'd cry and beg my dad not to send them there(I figured out thet they were not coming back home except in the form of bacon and country ham), but he would send them on to the slaughter house with me crying. I'd pout for a few days but I always got over it when Mom fixed me a plate of country ham and eggs Laughing
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Bootsie



Joined: 22 Jun 2006
Posts: 492

PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My son had a pet pig that grew into a pet HOG. He got so HUGE that he couldn't even get up off the ground in certain positions so he finally had to send him to his reward in hoggie heaven. Neither he not I had a bit of a problem eating the meat but his wife and my other son just refused to eat it! His name was Pork Chop!
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Bootsie



Joined: 22 Jun 2006
Posts: 492

PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GRINGOGIRL---notice Ms. Fatback has received the book you so kindly sent her. She has already found a good many tips for her quest for the perfect BOAR!
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