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butterbean
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| gringogirl wrote: | | tener los mango bajitos |
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Patriot
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iamme
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| Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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It can also mean "to have the mangoes low" which is pretty much slang for saying to have no balls or to have sagging breasts or to have no class. The way she phrases the words, however, sound like she is talking about herself. I believe she meant "Tienes los mangoes bajitos" which is more direct.
Butterbean,
We could have so much fun together if we learned to laugh over such things as not knowing a language. Remember my experience at the salon with the chineses?  Ah yes, goodtimes.
Mi yamo no Spanish = Mine name no spanish
you meant: No hablo espanol.
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Proud American
Joined: 19 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:24 am Post subject: Some Food For Thought |
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I enjoy reading all of your posts, except iamme's. Maybe some of you think you will change her, most know they will not.
Maybe I've seen trolls longer than most, because Im older than many of you. Who knows. I can tell you for a fact that she(trolls) get off while you spend your honest time compassionatly trying to speak from your hearts to defend our country from illegal aliens. (No they are not illegal immigrants by any stretch of the word).
While she is toying with people here who love this country in a way she couldn't possibly understand, or even care to, she should take that energy and teach her kid(s) english, our constitution, our national anthem so they will become productive citizens of this country. Or she could like the majority of illegals not teach their kids english, teach them how to get the freebies and rape our country for the next 20 generations of anchors.
Here is a little food for thought, I found thinking about how many millions of nice people throughout the years I've watched wasting their time with these types of posters.
An elderly Cherokee man was teaching his grandchildren about life.
He said to them, "A fight is going on inside of me; it is a terrible fight, and it is between two wolves.
One wolf is fear, anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority and ego.
The other is joy, peace, love, hope, sharing, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, friendship, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.
This same fight is going on inside you and inside every other person too."
They thought about it for a minute and then one child asked his grandfather, "Which wolf will win?"
The old Cherokee simply replied, "The one you feed."
Take care and God Bless America, and to our troops fighting for US.
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tweety
Joined: 21 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:29 am Post subject: Re: Some Food For Thought |
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| Proud American wrote: | I enjoy reading all of your posts, except iamme's. Maybe some of you think you will change her, most know they will not.
Maybe I've seen trolls longer than most, because Im older than many of you. Who knows. I can tell you for a fact that she(trolls) get off while you spend your honest time compassionatly trying to speak from your hearts to defend our country from illegal aliens. (No they are not illegal immigrants by any stretch of the word).
While she is toying with people here who love this country in a way she couldn't possibly understand, or even care to, she should take that energy and teach her kid(s) english, our constitution, our national anthem so they will become productive citizens of this country. Or she could like the majority of illegals not teach their kids english, teach them how to get the freebies and rape our country for the next 20 generations of anchors.
Here is a little food for thought, I found thinking about how many millions of nice people throughout the years I've watched wasting their time with these types of posters.
An elderly Cherokee man was teaching his grandchildren about life.
He said to them, "A fight is going on inside of me; it is a terrible fight, and it is between two wolves.
One wolf is fear, anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority and ego.
The other is joy, peace, love, hope, sharing, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, friendship, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.
This same fight is going on inside you and inside every other person too."
They thought about it for a minute and then one child asked his grandfather, "Which wolf will win?"
The old Cherokee simply replied, "The one you feed."
Take care and God Bless America, and to our troops fighting for US.
Proud American |
I only try to play minister to the lost souls for so long, then it is time to move on. I agree that iamme is your typical ethnically driven Hispanic that refuses to see the light. I have been able to in the past convince some that their priorities are all screwed up as American citizens but many times not too. I think this is probably one of those cases.
I usually won't debate with or try to convince anyone who is not being civil while expressing their points of view. I didn't find her offensive that way but yes, she is a lost cause so I will move on. |
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tweety
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iamme, just a few last thoughts for you. When Hispanics in this country start accepting the fact that this is a mono-lingual country of the English language and that we don't wish to become Hispanized by becoming a bi-lingual, bi-cultural country, then we will start to get along.
We just want the immigrants of today to assimilate just like the past ones did. We want respect and acceptance of our language, culture and heritage and we don't wish to alter it to please you. When this occurs then we shall all start to get along.
As soon as Hispanics start respecting our immigration laws and stop fighting for and making excuses for the illegal aliens just because most are ethnically like them, then we shall start to all get along.
As soon as Hispanics start working towards the good of all American citizens and the best interests of this country as a whole instead of constantly thinking in ethnic terms and being divisive, we shall all start getting along.
We don't want imigrants in this country with an agenda to takeover politically, numericaly and every other way to change us. We aren't perfect but we like our country the way it is and has been since it's founding. As soon as Hispanics start accepting that we will all start to get along.
At least one thing I do give your credit for is being civil at least with me. I know you are in some of those forums where only the pro-illegal Hispanics can have a voice and that is why I wanted to prove to you that I am not a troll and never had reason to be kicked off any of those forums. Pass the word of freedom of speech in those forums and you will being doing something to bridge the gap between the two opposing sides on illegal immigration. Don't act like a Nazi child like they do.
take care and I hope you wake up one day and take sides with the citizens of this country of all colors and races who want the laws of this land upheld and what is best for this country as a whole. Hope you learn to respect our culture and language by adopting it just as we respect the culture and language of other countries within their own borders. We are no different than Mexico or any other country who has a unique identity, nor should we be expected to be. |
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butterbean
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Everybody should read this article posted on another thread. It seems familiar doesnt it? Not all hispanics share the same traits. But it IS true that Mexicans think they are "all it and a bag of chips". They feel Mexican first, and that WE should adapt to their customs. 
http://www.believeinamerica.com/about796.html |
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iamme
Joined: 24 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:07 am Post subject: Re: Some Food For Thought |
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| Proud American wrote: | I enjoy reading all of your posts, except iamme's. Maybe some of you think you will change her, most know they will not.
Maybe I've seen trolls longer than most, because Im older than many of you. Who knows. I can tell you for a fact that she(trolls) get off while you spend your honest time compassionatly trying to speak from your hearts to defend our country from illegal aliens. (No they are not illegal immigrants by any stretch of the word). |
If you can tell us for a fact, I can only assume you've been a troll once and you enjoyed it. I don't. I do it because I feel it is important that the other side is heard too, before we have another Mexican Repartrition. There is nothing fun about being the one against the many. Try arguing with 4 or more on a forum and let me know how much fun you have, especially when you have no one backing you up. I can understand defending our country from illegal aliens, but I am defending illegal immigrants, and yes, they are illegal immigrants by every stretch of the word.
| Quote: | | While she is toying with people here who love this country in a way she couldn't possibly understand, or even care to, she should take that energy and teach her kid(s) english, our constitution, our national anthem so they will become productive citizens of this country. Or she could like the majority of illegals not teach their kids english, teach them how to get the freebies and rape our country for the next 20 generations of anchors. |
I am teaching my child to be bilingual and I am also involved in the operating of a new organization that provides ESL classes, GED, and employment trainings for immigrants. As for the majority of illegals not teaching their kids english, where do you get your stats from? Alipac? The number one complaint of many illegals is that their children are assimilating too fast. There are statistics that prove that 2nd or 3rd generation of immigrants (legal and illegal) speak more English and little to no Spanish, or just become bilingual.
| Quote: | Here is a little food for thought, I found thinking about how many millions of nice people throughout the years I've watched wasting their time with these types of posters.
An elderly Cherokee man was teaching his grandchildren about life.
He said to them, "A fight is going on inside of me; it is a terrible fight, and it is between two wolves.
One wolf is fear, anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority and ego.
The other is joy, peace, love, hope, sharing, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, friendship, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.
This same fight is going on inside you and inside every other person too."
They thought about it for a minute and then one child asked his grandfather, "Which wolf will win?"
The old Cherokee simply replied, "The one you feed."
Take care and God Bless America, and to our troops fighting for US.
Proud American |
Here is a little fact about animals. If a wild animal who has lived its life fighting for food, territory, and rights comes to battle with a domestic animal who has been hand fed all it's life, who is more likely to win? The experienced fighter, or the dependent pup? Who is more likely to survive in the wilderness alone? If an animal is mistreated with brutality all of it's life by humans, will it allow a human to get near them? It has nothing to do with good or evil, but rather the instinct to survive. The battle of the wolves is inside us, not with each other. An experience wolve cannot be handfed to my knowledge, thus it does not matter which wolve you feed, the one with the most experience will more than likely win. Unless the wolve is a politician, then the wolve with the most votes wins. Ok, I'm bad with jokes. |
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iamme
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| Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:29 am Post subject: Re: Some Food For Thought |
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| tweety wrote: |
I only try to play minister to the lost souls for so long, then it is time to move on. I agree that iamme is your typical ethnically driven Hispanic that refuses to see the light. I have been able to in the past convince some that their priorities are all screwed up as American citizens but many times not too. I think this is probably one of those cases.
I usually won't debate with or try to convince anyone who is not being civil while expressing their points of view. I didn't find her offensive that way but yes, she is a lost cause so I will move on. |
Tweety, I am not an ethnically driven Hispanic. My ethnicity is more than just Hispanic. It involves White (english), African American, and Mexican, and other races if we go deep into the past. I say I am Hispanic because if you trace my family tree, both paternal and maternal, we end up in Spain. Also, my grandparents speak/spoke only Spanish despite their origin, and my parents were bilingual. For the longest time I didn't know whether to say whether I was black because of my dad or Hispanic because of my mom, or white because of my grandfather. Considering that two of those races were more than likely to expose me to discrimination, I chose to say I was white. It wasn't until I entered college that I decided to just go with what I fit into the most, Hispanic. Everyone was enjoying their cultures their. Jamaican's were speaking Jamaican, Chinese were speaking chinese, Arabians were speaking arab, etc. We all got along just fine. It is funny that you say you want to play minister with me and that you want me to see the light. I don't understand how you can get me to see the light when you are closing doors instead of opening them. You are asking me to take a step back instead of forward. Even God is multilingual and multicultural, and guess what, you don't need papers to enter heaven, you just have to be good, do good, and teach to do good. |
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iamme
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| Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:57 am Post subject: |
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| tweety wrote: | iamme, just a few last thoughts for you. When Hispanics in this country start accepting the fact that this is a mono-lingual country of the English language and that we don't wish to become Hispanized by becoming a bi-lingual, bi-cultural country, then we will start to get along.
We just want the immigrants of today to assimilate just like the past ones did. We want respect and acceptance of our language, culture and heritage and we don't wish to alter it to please you. When this occurs then we shall all start to get along. |
There are no facts to prove that this is a monolingual country, but quite the contrary. If you have facts, please provide them. It is a fact that this country intended to be English only, and has thus far succeeded to make English a dominant language for communication, but this country has never and will never be a monolingual country unless we can place it in a bubble glass and stop immigration completely. No one is forcing you to become Hispanized or bilingual or bicultural, and until you can learn to accept us, then you can get along with us, because we've been getting along with you.
The past immigrants, most of them didn't assimilate, that's why we segregated, because "American's" saw them as a threat. Your language has been accepted by more than the majority as has your culture and your heritage. No one is asking you to alter that to please them. When you realize that is highly impossible to alter a persons language, culture, and heritage by simply standing or living next to them, then you can get along with us, because we've been getting along with you.
| Quote: | | As soon as Hispanics start respecting our immigration laws and stop fighting for and making excuses for the illegal aliens just because most are ethnically like them, then we shall start to all get along. |
When you realize that the reason Hispanics defend illegal aliens is because of the history we have had with discrimination throughout history based on our race, and until the day you come close to being deported because of your race, then you will understand why we fight for and defend illegal immigrants and then we can get along.
| Quote: | | As soon as Hispanics start working towards the good of all American citizens and the best interests of this country as a whole instead of constantly thinking in ethnic terms and being divisive, we shall all start getting along. |
When you realize that that is what we are all trying to do, then you can get along with us because we are getting along with you.
| Quote: | | We don't want imigrants in this country with an agenda to takeover politically, numericaly and every other way to change us. |
Neither do we.
| Quote: | | We aren't perfect but we like our country the way it is and has been since it's founding. As soon as Hispanics start accepting that we will all start to get along. |
Then I don't think we can get along if we must make this country like it was since it's founding. Back then there was major discrimination, racism was legal, and segregation camps or just segregation were very common. The only way you would be considered an American was if you were white and male, other than that you were just an immigrant.
| Quote: | | At least one thing I do give your credit for is being civil at least with me. I know you are in some of those forums where only the pro-illegal Hispanics can have a voice and that is why I wanted to prove to you that I am not a troll and never had reason to be kicked off any of those forums. Pass the word of freedom of speech in those forums and you will being doing something to bridge the gap between the two opposing sides on illegal immigration. Don't act like a Nazi child like they do. |
You bet I will. Thank you for shedding the light on something peaceful.
| Quote: | | take care and I hope you wake up one day and take sides with the citizens of this country of all colors and races who want the laws of this land upheld and what is best for this country as a whole. Hope you learn to respect our culture and language by adopting it just as we respect the culture and language of other countries within their own borders. We are no different than Mexico or any other country who has a unique identity, nor should we be expected to be. |
I am taking sides with the citizens of this country of all colors and races. I do want the laws of this land upheld and I want what is best for this country as a whole. The topping on my cake just tastes a little different than yours, but it is still red, white and blue. I haven't adopted the language of this country, I grew up with it, just like I grew up with Spanish. As for culture, there is so much of it I don't know which to choose so I just go with the calendar and celebrate what I can. Yes, America is unique and I'm defenitley not expecting it to change. Take care and hope we can discuss other issues besides language and culture.  [/quote] |
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Proud American
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| Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:47 am Post subject: Little Red Riding Hood Lied |
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iamme, yes, you indeed support illegals. However your quote below:
(Here is a little fact about animals. If a wild animal who has lived its life fighting for food, territory, and rights comes to battle with a domestic animal who has been hand fed all it's life, who is more likely to win? The experienced fighter, or the dependent pup? Who is more likely to survive in the wilderness alone? If an animal is mistreated with brutality all of it's life by humans, will it allow a human to get near them? It has nothing to do with good or evil, but rather the instinct to survive. The battle of the wolves is inside us, not with each other. An experience wolve cannot be handfed to my knowledge, thus it does not matter which wolve you feed, the one with the most experience will more than likely win. Unless the wolve is a politician, then the wolve with the most votes wins. Ok, I'm bad with jokes.)
shows how you provoke. When you provoke any animal, you will get bit, no matter how docile its nature. Illegals have no rights in America. None, Nada. Your analogy stinks. The legal Americans I have been born and raised around worked their butts off for what they have. They were never "hand fed" as you would say. You and your kind are the dependant pups, who feed off the nipples of welfare, free education, and busting the balls of our medical centers. If Americans see the trash, the filth, the waste, the destruction of our environment from illegals are we suppose to welcome them with open arms, or be afraid when they run through our back yards, and steal anything that isn't tied down. Not to mention, the molestation, rape, car-jacking, robbery, murder many of them commit on our soil to our citizens.
You know nothing of wolves. I've been around wolves for over 10 years. Wolf government is flawless. Wolves take care of their pups without handouts, and the whole pack takes care of them when they go out and hunt for their food. And yes, I've hand fed many wolves. It is not the wolf that needs experience, but the owner who does to live with the wolf in harmony, and to respect them.
I have no sympathy for any illegal or supporters of illegals who get any handouts from our government. Your so-called friends enjoy stealing our identities with absolutely no regard for "our feelings, our losses, our suffering." And your so-called friends are stealing what we have worked hard to get in our country. What is your excuse for that? Do you think we owe these people a dime? I owe them squat.
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tweety
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For anyone who "claims" they want to be part of a forum where opposing views are allowed with civility and fairness prevails by the moderators, please visit MATT.org (moderated fairly) and alt.politics.immigration ( an unmoderated google forum).
Stay away from groups such as the Hispanic Business Forum where only pro-illegals are allowed to stay on as regulars and anti's deleted even though civil. (not moderated fairly at all). |
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iamme
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| Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:49 am Post subject: Re: Little Red Riding Hood Lied |
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| Proud American wrote: | iamme, yes, you indeed support illegals. However your quote below:
(Here is a little fact about animals. If a wild animal who has lived its life fighting for food, territory, and rights comes to battle with a domestic animal who has been hand fed all it's life, who is more likely to win? The experienced fighter, or the dependent pup? Who is more likely to survive in the wilderness alone? If an animal is mistreated with brutality all of it's life by humans, will it allow a human to get near them? It has nothing to do with good or evil, but rather the instinct to survive. The battle of the wolves is inside us, not with each other. An experience wolve cannot be handfed to my knowledge, thus it does not matter which wolve you feed, the one with the most experience will more than likely win. Unless the wolve is a politician, then the wolve with the most votes wins. Ok, I'm bad with jokes.)
shows how you provoke. When you provoke any animal, you will get bit, no matter how docile its nature. Illegals have no rights in America. None, Nada. Your analogy stinks. The legal Americans I have been born and raised around worked their butts off for what they have. They were never "hand fed" as you would say. You and your kind are the dependant pups, who feed off the nipples of welfare, free education, and busting the balls of our medical centers. If Americans see the trash, the filth, the waste, the destruction of our environment from illegals are we suppose to welcome them with open arms, or be afraid when they run through our back yards, and steal anything that isn't tied down. Not to mention, the molestation, rape, car-jacking, robbery, murder many of them commit on our soil to our citizens. |
Proud American, I know I’m bad with jokes, but regardless, you have no sense of humor. The mere fact that you cannot recognize a persons attempt to lighten the mood is evidence enough. However, illegals do have rights in America, they are called human rights and if you cannot defend that, then your fight is not for America but for your own purposes.
“The American system aims at a free society where life, liberty and a host of inalienable human rights are guaranteed by its Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Human rights in the United States of America are built on the self-evident truth that all men are created equal and endowed by their creator with natural human rights.”
“In the United States, like other liberal democracies, freedom of expression (including speech, media, and public assembly) is seen as an important right and is given special protection.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_United_States
Me and my “kind”, will continue to feed off the nipples of welfare, free education, and “your” medical center’s because proud “American’s” like you are always there to knock us off the ladder of success and land us back below the poverty level. You know what the difference is, though? I’ve yet to see a homeless Hispanic, poor yes, but not homeless. We are survivors and many of us help each other out when we can. We fake rooms in our homes, we SHARE what we have, unlike many American's who can see another American who is homeless and they just let him stay that way. There are a few illegals who commit heinious crimes, but the majority of illegals who are good wouldn’t have to be running through your back yards if the immigration process was a fair one. Our family lives in an area that is one of the largest trafficked area in Texas by illegal immigrants for over 80 years and not ONCE has anything EVER been stolen from us or have we experienced any bad incidents with illegal immigrants. We don't have fancy neighborhoods, but our neighborhoods are clean, fun, and we respect each other because we help each other when the need arises.
| Quote: | You know nothing of wolves. I've been around wolves for over 10 years. Wolf government is flawless. Wolves take care of their pups without handouts, and the whole pack takes care of them when they go out and hunt for their food. And yes, I've hand fed many wolves. It is not the wolf that needs experience, but the owner who does to live with the wolf in harmony, and to respect them.
I have no sympathy for any illegal or supporters of illegals who get any handouts from our government. Your so-called friends enjoy stealing our identities with absolutely no regard for "our feelings, our losses, our suffering." And your so-called friends are stealing what we have worked hard to get in our country. What is your excuse for that? Do you think we owe these people a dime? I owe them squat.
Proud American |
I never claimed to know anything about wolves, just a few facts about wild animals. But wolves live in a government with few rules, where they can kill their food and don’t have to worry about handouts although I’m sure they would appreciate it. It’s not the same for human beings. We have a government to depend on and can't just go around killing things to eat them. We need money and if we don't have money and there is help for that, then we get that help (call it a handout if you want). No one said a wolf needs experience, but if a wolf is mistreated by a human being, tell me, do you think that wolf will have an easy time trusting another human being? It’s the same with illegal immigrants. They’ve been mistreated for so long here in America that I do not blame some of them for not having respect for us. They come here to work, but they are within their rights to not appreciate us. Most American's just talk ill about illegal immigrants, but they never shine on the good.
Very few steal identities that belong to a living American. The majority have identities from those who are either diseased or do not exist. The reality, and it is not an excuse, is that in order to work they need identity or else, what reasons would they have to come here for if they cannot work? Naturally, we don’t owe them any money, but an opportunity shouldn’t be denied. It provides an opportunity for them to put the money back in the system and we benefit from that. |
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iamme
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| Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:51 am Post subject: Re: Little Red Riding Hood Lied |
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| Proud American wrote: | iamme, yes, you indeed support illegals. However your quote below:
(Here is a little fact about animals. If a wild animal who has lived its life fighting for food, territory, and rights comes to battle with a domestic animal who has been hand fed all it's life, who is more likely to win? The experienced fighter, or the dependent pup? Who is more likely to survive in the wilderness alone? If an animal is mistreated with brutality all of it's life by humans, will it allow a human to get near them? It has nothing to do with good or evil, but rather the instinct to survive. The battle of the wolves is inside us, not with each other. An experience wolve cannot be handfed to my knowledge, thus it does not matter which wolve you feed, the one with the most experience will more than likely win. Unless the wolve is a politician, then the wolve with the most votes wins. Ok, I'm bad with jokes.)
shows how you provoke. When you provoke any animal, you will get bit, no matter how docile its nature. Illegals have no rights in America. None, Nada. Your analogy stinks. The legal Americans I have been born and raised around worked their butts off for what they have. They were never "hand fed" as you would say. You and your kind are the dependant pups, who feed off the nipples of welfare, free education, and busting the balls of our medical centers. If Americans see the trash, the filth, the waste, the destruction of our environment from illegals are we suppose to welcome them with open arms, or be afraid when they run through our back yards, and steal anything that isn't tied down. Not to mention, the molestation, rape, car-jacking, robbery, murder many of them commit on our soil to our citizens. |
Proud American, I know I’m bad with jokes, but regardless, you have no sense of humor. The mere fact that you cannot recognize a persons attempt to lighten the mood is evidence enough. However, illegals do have rights in America, they are called human rights and if you cannot defend that, then your fight is not for America but for your own purposes.
“The American system aims at a free society where life, liberty and a host of inalienable human rights are guaranteed by its Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Human rights in the United States of America are built on the self-evident truth that all men are created equal and endowed by their creator with natural human rights.”
“In the United States, like other liberal democracies, freedom of expression (including speech, media, and public assembly) is seen as an important right and is given special protection.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_United_States
Me and my “kind”, will continue to feed off the nipples of welfare, free education, and “your” medical center’s because proud “American’s” like you are always there to knock us off the ladder of success and land us back below the poverty level. You know what the difference is, though? I’ve yet to see a homeless Hispanic, poor yes, but not homeless. We are survivors and many of us help each other out when we can. We fake rooms in our homes, we SHARE what we have, unlike many American's who can see another American who is homeless and they just let him stay that way. There are a few illegals who commit heinious crimes, but the majority of illegals who are good wouldn’t have to be running through your back yards if the immigration process was a fair one. Our family lives in an area that is one of the largest trafficked area in Texas by illegal immigrants for over 80 years and not ONCE has anything EVER been stolen from us or have we experienced any bad incidents with illegal immigrants. We don't have fancy neighborhoods, but our neighborhoods are clean, fun, and we respect each other because we help each other when the need arises.
| Quote: | You know nothing of wolves. I've been around wolves for over 10 years. Wolf government is flawless. Wolves take care of their pups without handouts, and the whole pack takes care of them when they go out and hunt for their food. And yes, I've hand fed many wolves. It is not the wolf that needs experience, but the owner who does to live with the wolf in harmony, and to respect them.
I have no sympathy for any illegal or supporters of illegals who get any handouts from our government. Your so-called friends enjoy stealing our identities with absolutely no regard for "our feelings, our losses, our suffering." And your so-called friends are stealing what we have worked hard to get in our country. What is your excuse for that? Do you think we owe these people a dime? I owe them squat.
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I never claimed to know anything about wolves, just a few facts about wild animals. But wolves live in a government with few rules, where they can kill their food and don’t have to worry about handouts although I’m sure they would appreciate it. It’s not the same for human beings. We have a government to depend on and can't just go around killing things to eat them. We need money and if we don't have money and there is help for that, then we get that help (call it a handout if you want). No one said a wolf needs experience, but if a wolf is mistreated by a human being, tell me, do you think that wolf will have an easy time trusting another human being? It’s the same with illegal immigrants. They’ve been mistreated for so long here in America that I do not blame some of them for not having respect for us. They come here to work, but they are within their rights to not appreciate us. Most American's just talk ill about illegal immigrants, but they never shine on the good.
Very few steal identities that belong to a living American. The majority have identities from those who are either diseased or do not exist. The reality, and it is not an excuse, is that in order to work they need identity or else, what reasons would they have to come here for if they cannot work? Naturally, we don’t owe them any money, but an opportunity shouldn’t be denied. It provides an opportunity for them to put the money back in the system and we benefit from that. |
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tweety
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| iamme, you said you appreciated having someone who will listen to your point of view in here and be civil, of which I have done. If you truly are for freedom of speech like myelf, then why do you hang out in Nazi forums like the Hispanic Business Forum and the Galleons Forum where freedom of speech is only granted to the pro-illegals? |
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