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I guess Alex Jones is supposed to be a Libertarian, don't know what Glenn Beck is, don't think he ever claimed to be Libertarian, he is supposedly not bound to the Republican Party as much as Rush and Sean.

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Possenti
05-01-2010, 09:43 AM
A friend of mine thinks of Beck as a great leader of some future resistance movement that will eventually topple the global elite. If he had ANY potential to do that, do you think he would still be allowed on TV and/or radio? Glenn Beck merely provides a SAFETY VALVE that allows honest, productive Americans to vent their anger via yelling along with Beck when he does his shows. I see this at work every day when he's on the radio. No one takes up arms and no one gets hurt, because "VOTING is our weapon". The globalists thank you, Glenn Beck.

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f54/commun...ndex2.html


Thor357
08-15-2009, 01:53 PM
Glen Beck is a safety valve as was Rush Limbaugh.
Watch carefully both say mad as hell then end with do NOTHING about it.
They are here to allow people to blow off steam and that’s all. They always talk against real change, or revolution.
Rush hung up on me before because I called him out years ago when he first came to Detroit's radio market.
They are nothing more than safety valves, BUT they sometimes misread Americans and I pray, hope and wait to see of they misread and cause Americans to get really active as they have already, unintentionally.
We can only hope Beck accidentally causes people to REALLY awake.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t629488-31/


TIME MAGAZINE-Beck Folk Hero, Agitator-a safety valve for the disenfranchised
By David Von Drehle Thursday, Sep. 17, 2009
Mad Man: Is Glenn Beck Bad for America?

http://www.time.com/time/politics/articl...48,00.html


How Glenn Beck Saves Lives
by Reihan Salam
June 19, 2009
During a fascinating live chat with readers of The Washington Post, Beck addressed the question of extremist violence a number of times. One reader asked Beck point blank if he, like many of the commenters on his Web site, advocated a violent revolution. Beck condemned violence, and said that "we need to model ourselves after Martin Luther King and Gandhi." Another reader thoughtfully asked how Beck avoids pushing fringe groups to violence, to which Beck responded that "the fringe groups hate my guts. The fringe groups think I'm a government stooge." And in a sense the fringe groups were right. Rather than stoke the fears of his audience, Beck's occasionally loopy warnings about socialist totalitarianism and the coming American civil war actually inoculate his viewers against truly extreme sentiments. You couldn't invent a better government stooge than Beck.
When a friend made me watch a lengthy Beck segment on the "Bubba Effect," in which angry rednecks revolt against an Obama-led federal government in a climate of total economic collapse, I was meant to laugh at Beck's insanity. Instead, I was struck by how Beck was taking a lot of deep-seated and often unspoken anxieties very seriously. Aside from his weirdly hypnotic eyes—the main reason I'm not a regular viewer of his program—Beck's great strength is that he's a kind of national therapist for some of America's craziest people, few of whom are willing to go in for professional help. Without Beck and O'Reilly and even Olbermann, how exactly would these people let off steam? I don't want to know.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-s...ves-lives/

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Media Matters

Fox gives Napolitano's Truther tendencies a pass
November 30, 2010
Not only has Fox News not addressed Andrew Napolitano's emergence as a Truther, the network has continued to host him. This morning, he was on Fox & Friends, a show that regularly rails against 9/11 Truthers. Did they have anything to say to Judge Nap about his Truther-ness? Nope.
Compare that to the exchange co-host Brian Kilmeade--who used to also co-host a radio show with Napolitano--had with former Governor Jesse Ventura over the issue. Ventura also asks "questions" about the government's story about what happened on 9/11. Kilmeade challenged him for making up "scandals that says that 9/11 was an inside job." The two got into quite the argument over this issue, which culminated in Kilmeade walking off the set, under the guise that he had to go host his radio show.
Or how about a few months ago, when the hosts eviscerated Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for ranting about 9/11 being an "inside job" while addressing the UN in September? Gretchen Carlson declared, "It really doesn't matter where you state that statement, quite frankly. I mean, you could say that in Des Moines, Iowa and it'd still be offensive. There really is no relationship."

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201011300022


Fox host Napolitano is a 9-11 Truther: "It couldn't possibly have been done the way the government told us"
November 24, 2010
Napolitano made his remarks on the radio show of Alex Jones, who is widely viewed as the leader of the conspiracy theory that the 9-11 attacks were an inside job.
Napolitano has long appeared on the program of Jones, who has been criticized by the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Anti-Defamation League, among others, for outlandish conspiracy theories. However, as Jones himself indicated, this appears to be the first time Jones has discussed his pet cause with Napolitano on-air.
Napolitano has previously hosted Jones on his Freedom Watch program when it was on FoxNews.com. It now airs daily on Fox Business - a development Jones repeatedly cheered during the interview. Napolitano has promised Jones that he will host him on his Fox Business program.
Napolitano has dabbled in 9-11 Truth discussion before. In March, while still on FoxNews.com, Napolitano hosted truther Jesse Ventura, who was given an unchallenged platform to push 9-11 conspiracy theories.
Napolitano and Jones' discussion referenced a segment about WTC building 7 by Fox News host Geraldo Rivera, who hosted a group of family members of 9-11 victims asking the "NYC city council to investigate" the official account about building 7. Rivera, who has been outspoken against 9-11 conspiracy theories, said at the conclusion that he was "much more open minded" about 9-11 questions because of the involvement of 9-11 families and architects and engineers.
Napolitano later discussed the segment with Geraldo on his Fox Business program. Asked if he doubted the official conclusion about building 7, Geraldo said: "I think that it is highly unlikely that our government would do anything nefarious on a scale of this epic nature. However, the building does appear to come down in a way that is reminiscent of a controlled demolition."
Napolitano's belief in 9-11 conspiracy theories may make things awkward with his Fox News colleagues - especially Glenn Beck -- who have denounced 9-11 conspiracy theories and those associating themselves with anyone making them.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201011240019

03/13/2009
JUDAS GOAT - Glenn Beck the controlled opposition
I know there are many Glenn Beck fans on this Ron Paul forum. But you would do well to understand that GB trashed Dr. Paul and his supporters along with David Horowitz when Ron Paul's candidacy was threatening the status quo.
"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves." - Vladimir Lenin
I am not saying Glenn Beck cannot be useful. I think he can be but only useful as a "tool."

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/86000


06/07/2009
The REAL TRUTH about Glenn Beck: a neoCON wolf, in a sheeple's clothing...
Beck DID NOT just wake up one morning, in CLEAR wake of GOP's decline, switched his employer, and had a Freedom-Liberty-Constitutionalist catharsis.
Glenn Beck is the biggest Judas Goat there is.
Beck is out to co-opt the Freedom/Liberty/Patriot/R3VOLution movement, not to mention attempt to AstroTurf OUR TEA PARTY, by dropping morsels of keywords that communicate with those of us concerned with the restoration of our Constitutional Republic. But, as EVERYONE here remembers CLEARLY, during the 2008 Pres.Campaign, he PUBLICLY STATED, ON RECORD, that ALL RON PAUL SUPPORTERS and 9/11Truth Activists should be GitMo'd and TORTURED. He is no friend of anyone's, but the dittoheads and mindless bots of all stripes. There's nothing "grassroots" about FakeNews financing them; when a large propagandist corporatist entity is sponsoring to push a what used to be seen as a populist movement, it's called "Astro-Turfing." But we should NEVER stop starting or appearing at future Tea Parties.
But, we don't have to "sense" anything, Glenn's scummy track record pretty much says it all. I'd second what one commenter wrote in the above YT link: indeed he went from propagandizing on the Commie News Network, to now propagandizing on the Fake News Network. There is almost no better example of how literally fake and manufactured, the Left vs. Right paradigm of political cesspool, which the NWO bankster gangsters keep funding, to keep us bickering amongst ourselves, locked inside that small sandbox of puny three ring circus.
Glenn Beck, Rupert Murdoch, and the neoCONs are sensing this; their REAL ambition is to "lead" the morons off the cliff using RP's honest, sincere and attractive principles by sprinkling it with FakeNews empire's usual nonsense. They need some semblance of credibility; a perfect recipe for propaganda. Glenn sold out LONG ago.

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/95549


January 25th, 2010
Glenn Beck, The Neo-Con Judas Goat
The people are being misled by this flip-flopping so-called libertarian commentator.
While Beck has done a lot of good, he’s also done a lot of bad.
It is very important you always evaluate for yourself the policies of our government in relation to the constitution and your natural rights. Do not trust someone like Beck to do your thinking for you.

http://fascistsoup.com/2010/01/25/glenn-...udas-goat/


8-30-10
GLENN BECK: AMERICA'S JUDAS GOAT
The Obnoxious Emotionally Charged Hoax Of Fox News
The Judas Goat has been released to herd the angry sheep to a predestination, preconceived and hatched by the elite oligarchy who run, control, and decide the future of The United States Of America. Glenn Beck has been nothing but a shill for the elite who want to hijack, and control any movement of the people to change the political landscape in Washington.
So what is Glenn Beck's connection to the Rothschilds? (SEE HERE).
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/article...196/15372/
Why would Glenn Beck have a Rothschild on his program? THINK!
Rockefeller has been valued at 10 Trillion, Rothschild valued at 500 Trillion yet they're never in any Forbes or Fortune rich list.

http://www.futuredatabank.com/global_forecast10.html


September 28, 2010
Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
Glenn Beck is paid millions of dollars a year to deflect the righteous anger of the American people away from the bankster elite and focus it on a gaggle of washed-up 60s radicals. In the process, meaningful political action is harmlessly deflected away from the controllers and safely expended on a handful of useful idiot scapegoats funded by globalist foundations, so-called progressive PACs, and corporate labor unions.
It is amazing how much Glenn Beck sounds like Alex Jones. The reason for this is because Beck’s people listen to the Alex Jones Show, take notes, and then relay what Jones talks about on any given day back to their master. An inside source at Fox News has verified this to be the case.
Beck often harps on the globalist George Soros, the Center for American Progress, John Podesta, and the Clinton-era Democrats while failing to mention the fact that Soros is a Bilderberger and a member of the Council on Foreign Relations along with his supposed polar opposite, the RINO Newt Gingrich, who has been a CFR member since 1990. He is also a prized member of the Bohemian Grove where he presumably gets down with the sort of homosexual male prostitutes that made Richard Nixon ill.
Beck and Palin will steer the potentially dangerous Tea Party movement safely into the grandstands where they will be expected to follow the Republican platform of never-ending neocon wars and further encroachments on the Constitution and the Bill of Rights in the name of fighting terrorism manufactured by the CIA and perpetuated by the global intelligence monolith that serves the interests of Wall Street and the international bankster cartel.

http://www.hammeringtruth.com/?p=2180


August 31, 2010
Both Alex Jones and Glenn Beck are immensely popular with a certain audiences - call those audiences Libertarian, call them rabidly anti-government, call them fiercely independent, call them wacko.
Here is a graphic comparing traffic in unique visitors between Infowars and Glenn Beck dot com.
Alex Jones believes Glenn Beck is more of Neocon than a true conservative. And for that hard core libertarian audience authenticity is paramount - Alex Jones (rightly or wrongly) is perceived to be more authentic than Glenn Beck.

http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-biz/new-gl...57834.html


Tea Party Astroturf vs. Grassroots: Does it Really Matter Anymore?
Two basic storylines have emerged. If the themed Tea Party events are being secretly organized by outfits like Richard Armey’s Freedom Works and then systematically promoted by Fox News then they’re “phony” “fake grassroots” and thus have no real legitimacy. But if they rose up without any real central marching orders, spontaneously bursting into life from the depths of #tcot on Twitter, then they’re organic and true, tapping into an as-yet unappreciated populist rage over public spending and higher taxes on millionaires.
In the end, the success or failure of things like Tea Party events rests almost entirely on the sheer number of bodies that show up and get involved.

http://thatshallowfellow.wordpress.com/2...r-anymore/


Glenn Beck works for Rupert Murdoch and Rupert Murdoch and the Koch brothers fund the Tea Party Movement in the U.S.. You must ask about the background of this powerful media mogul, Rupert and the Koch Brothers. The Kochs worked with Hitler's American agent William Rhodes Davis, who repeatedly tauted his relationship to Cecil Rhodes, founder of the DeBeers Diamond mines and Jefferson Davis the President of the slave-holding Confederacy in America. Now are you seeing the connection? William Rhodes Davis is the father of recalled California governor Gray Davis who was replaced by Austrian born, Arnold Schwartzenegger, a Republican and married to the granddaughter of recalled British Ambassador, Joseph P Kennedy. Cecil Rhodes was a close associate of the Rothschilds in London. But back to Rupert Murdoch.
Keith Rupert Murdoch was born in Melbourne, Australia, the son of Elisabeth Joy Greene and Sir Arthur Keith Murdoch. Rupert's father, Arthur Keith, was the son of Ann Brown and Patrick John Murdoch. The Brown name will come up again and again in British and American relations for good reason, but too much to go into now. Rupert's mother is Dame Elisabeth Joy Greene a member of the Order of the British Empire. Her granddaughter, Rupert's niece, is married to Matthew Freud, Sigmund's grandson. It's is all quite inbred, but to understand how this bed of twisted vines supports the monarchialist system of the royals which the Americans resisted in their first Tea Party you have to understand the work of the Tavistock Group's leading amalgamator, Elliott Jaques.

http://winsipcuster.blogspot.com/2010/10...thers.html


May 20, 2010
NeoCon’s using the Tea Party to gain re-election
In 2007 when Ron Paul (a true Libertarian) made it clear he was going to run for president the G.O.P. went out of their way to make fun of him.
Glenn Beck says Ron Paul and his supporters are terrorists.
Glen Beck has been slamming Ron Paul for years.
Glen Beck has been a long time enemy of people who want to investigate 9/11.
Interesting enough Ron Paul is the founder of the modern tea party. The Neocon’s who are well known for never taking responsibly for anything they’ve done wrong and refuse to reform their own party and who took over the Republican party decided that fighting the libertarians would be their down fall. So they decided to hijack the libertarian movement.
They used their vehicle Fox News to take over the libertarian party’s movement by using Glenn Beck no less.
And in some bizarre world the polls are showing that Sarah Palin is replacing Ron Paul as the leader of the Tea party.
The conclusion is an obvious one. The NeoCon’s had to take cover and find a place to hide after the Bush years bankrupted this country. But in true Neo Conservative form they have diverted blame and have latched on to another movement to gain office.
They are not looking for reform; they liked the status quo. They are only concerned with having power, and once they are back in, The Bush Years, Part Two, will begin.

http://baicon.wordpress.com/2010/05/20/n...-election/


February 6, 2010
Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
Tea Party Sarah is a Neocon
Palin, the darling of the Tea Party movement (or the one hijacked by statist neocons), is merely echoing the Republican idea that supposed terrorists accused by the government do not deserve Fifth Amendment protection and should be shuffled off to the torture camp at Gitmo straight away.
Palin supports the neocon concept of forever war against Muslims. In this respect she is just like Obama and the Democrat version of Bush’s neocons.
In December, Tea Party Sarah lauded Obama’s decision to send another 30,000 troops into the Afghan meat grinder.
In regard to the Middle East, Palin sounds just like a run-of-the-mill neocon.
Once again, Palin gets it wrong. In fact, people are deserting Israel in record numbers, especially educated professionals “who could not be integrated in Israel because of the unsuitability of their professions to the Israeli work force.” Others are leaving because the country is ruled by insane warmongers who are determined to start another war, this time with Iran. Palin supports the Israeli policy of stealing Palestinian land. She also apparently supports the Israeli bombing of civilians in Gaza.
As Justin Raimondo noted back in November of 2008, Sarah had her head stuffed with neocon talking points in the lead-up to the election when she was John McCain’s running mate.
War with Russia and attacking Iran? How is such warmongering insanity compatible with the Tea Party movement? Are Tea Party supporters ready to get behind ever increasing Pentagon budgets (more than $500 billion in 2009) in order to combat terrorists created by the CIA and Mossad?
Sarah Palin is a thinly disguised Trojan Horse. Her mission is to subvert the Tea Party movement and shepherd its supporters back into the big government and all-war-all-the-time Republican camp.

http://www.infowars.com/tea-party-sarah-is-a-neocon/

Glenn Beck is inexcusable.
Basically, it’s impossible to believe in George Soros without believing in the New World Order, impossible to believe in the New World Order without believing 9/11 was staged, impossible to believe George W. Bush is not part of the New World Order.


Conclusions About 9/11

http://mindprod.com/politics/bush911conclusion.html


Alan Jones
Feb 5, 2008
Between the lack of information that would
prove events did occur as we, the American populace, have been led to believe, and the evidence that suggests that these events unfolded differently from what the administration had flooded the media with, there is no other conclusion I could have reached.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article...tagon.html


The World Trade Center Demolition
and the So-Called War on Terrorism

http://www.serendipity.li/wtc.htm


If Michael Moore didn't quite do all his homework with regard to who may have been behind the 9-11 attack, that does not change the fact that the people of the United States were lied to to trick them into wars. And it is THAT message of the film which is the important one. But the hard fact remains that Michael Moore did not get ALL of the story of 9-11. Not by a longshot. "Fahrenheit 9/11" is just the tip of the iceberg.
Fahrenheit 9/11 is not an indictment of just George Bush. Fahrenheit 9/11 is not an indictment of just Republicans. Fahrenheit 9/11 is an indictment of the entire US Government that had to know Bush was lying to the American people to initiate a war and stood there smiling blandly while he did it. Like Hitler, Bush could not do what he did without a lot of cooperation by the entire government and the media.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLE...moore.html

So get this, Glenn Beck, with all his political might and sometimes madness, decides to tell America on FOX News (live) that after much research he states that FEMA camp exist. That said, he mentioned later in the evening that he will present this case on the air.
Later that evening, he states that FEMA camps DO NOT EXIST!!! Can you take this as a conspiracy against Glenn Beck from pressure of the NWO and Illuminati?

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread650840/pg1


As for Beck, he has been discovering the truth more and more and I see him unraveling before our eyes because of it. He’s either got it half right or is too afraid to come out and say the truth in its entirety.

http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mcc...mongering/


Is Glenn Beck a genuinely concerned patriot who is just afraid of losing his media platform if he goes all the way? Is he merely an opportunist out to make money from paranoia about the obvious and very real collapse of America? Or is he a pied piper, gaining trust from the patriot movement by putting out a good message only to later lead them astray?

http://www.infowars.com/glenn-beck-chann...ling-book/


While Fox News host Glenn Beck propagandizes almost on a daily basis about how 9/11 truthers represent a dangerous extremist fringe who are planning on killing the President, it turns out that the only violence being espoused is coming from Beck’s own viewers.

http://www.infowars.com/glenn-beck-suppo...-violence/

Is the Constitution Party Glenn Beck's "Common Sense" Party?

Is the Constitution Party Bill O’Reilly’s "Common Sense" Party?

Is the Constitution Party Rush Limbaugh’s "Common Sense" Party?

Apparently not. If it was, they would be promoting the Constitution Party and dissing the Republican Party.

Apparently their “Common Sense” Party is the Republican Tea Party which is basically the Reaganites which the Republican Party already had.