What role does original intent give the federal government in education or subsidizing business and industry? And what tells you what original intent is? Are some sources of original intent more important than others?

Original Intent is a political term that gives the government power to do anything they want. Like taking away your freedom to sound like an ass. The government is who dictates what "original intent" is.

Let me break this down for you. When the writers of the Constitution died off, it was pretty plain that it meant what it said and most practiced politico's felt that this document gave the population WAY too much power! So the power brokers went to work finding ways to curtail the everyday citizen ruling themselves. They had to get control of the currency. The Federal Reserve provided that. They had to dumb down the population. Public schools were set up and citizens were taxed to pay for these schools to teach children not to trust their parents and that the teacher was the authority. We had to create indebtedness to keep the middle class from becoming wealthy enough to have real political power in their hands.

Gun laws must be enacted. Gun control must be the first story in any news cycle. We have to elect Supreme Court Justices that will not hesitate at gun confiscation. We cannot have a well armed militia who knows their rights and have read and understand the constitution walking around. That might be too dangerous for lying politicians who invent terms like "Original Intent" to cloud the issues so that over time the elite can pick away at our individual rights and liberties.

Having a government that was so afraid of its people that it would never, ever do anything to betray them cannot be considered a safe haven for liars. So we must return to that ancient form of government where the "Serfs" serve at the pleasure of their "Lords". And to do this we will let the disposable talking heads ask questions about "Original Intent" so as to confuse the cattle that will soon be slaughtered. Then we will destroy those who helped us render the constitution as powerless.

Enjoy your forced inoculation in the fall. Eugenics is a thriving business.

I just hope the camps have nice bathrooms

(08-16-2009 10:57 AM)hubcap Wrote:  Original Intent is a political term that gives the government power to do anything they want. Like taking away your freedom to sound like an ass. The government is who dictates what "original intent" is.

News to me. I’ve always heard that original intent is the philosophy that the federal government could not do anything that is against someone’s (usually libertarians’) interpretation of the Constitution so that most of what the federal government now does is unconstitutional.

Quote:Let me break this down for you.

Don’t patronize me.

Quote:When the writers of the Constitution died off, it was pretty plain that it meant what it said and most practiced politico's felt that this document gave the population WAY too much power! So the power brokers went to work finding ways to curtail the everyday citizen ruling themselves. They had to get control of the currency. The Federal Reserve provided that.

The Federal Reserve was created almost 80 years after the last signer of the Constitution died. According to the Constitution Congress has had control over U.S. currency since 1789 in that Congress has the power to coin money and regulate the value thereof.

Quote:They had to dumb down the population. Public schools were set up and citizens were taxed to pay for these schools to teach children not to trust their parents and that the teacher was the authority.

Public schools that were set up and funded by the national government pre-date the Constitution. The laws that the Confederation Congress enacted to govern how the Old Northwest Territory would be settled and admitted to the Union included provisions that part of every township bet set aside to generate revenue to pay for a public school. These laws remained in effect under the Constitution since they were a pre-existing obligation of the United States.

Furthermore, in their state of the union messages both George Washington and James Madison, as president, called upon Congress to either create a national university or to provide federal funds for state schools. Contrary to what libertarians believe, the federal government has always had a role in public schools.

Quote:We had to create indebtedness to keep the middle class from becoming wealthy enough to have real political power in their hands.

Read up on Hamilton’s assumption law. The United States was already in debt before the Constitution was written.

Quote:Gun laws must be enacted.

As per the well regulated militia that is called for by the 2nd Amendment, lest fools, traitors and assorted hotheads try to use armed force to overthrow the government while the courts are open and elections are being held on schedule and elected official are yielding their office to their successors when their terms expire.

Quote:We have to elect Supreme Court Justices that will not hesitate at gun confiscation.

What planet are you from? Federal judges in the United States are not elected.

Quote:Having a government that was so afraid of its people that it would never, ever do anything to betray them cannot be considered a safe haven for liars.

A government that has to be afraid of armed rebellion is not sovereign, but then a government that cannot enforce its laws is precisely what libertarians want.

Bingo, you just confirmed what I suspected. You have been trained very well.

(08-16-2009 03:57 PM)flja Wrote:  

(08-16-2009 10:57 AM)hubcap Wrote:  Original Intent is a political term that gives the government power to do anything they want. Like taking away your freedom to sound like an ass. The government is who dictates what "original intent" is.

News to me. I’ve always heard that original intent is the philosophy that the federal government could not do anything that is against someone’s (usually libertarians’) interpretation of the Constitution so that most of what the federal government now does is unconstitutional.

Quote:Let me break this down for you.

Don’t patronize me.

Quote:When the writers of the Constitution died off, it was pretty plain that it meant what it said and most practiced politico's felt that this document gave the population WAY too much power! So the power brokers went to work finding ways to curtail the everyday citizen ruling themselves. They had to get control of the currency. The Federal Reserve provided that.

The Federal Reserve was created almost 80 years after the last signer of the Constitution died. According to the Constitution Congress has had control over U.S. currency since 1789 in that Congress has the power to coin money and regulate the value thereof.

Quote:They had to dumb down the population. Public schools were set up and citizens were taxed to pay for these schools to teach children not to trust their parents and that the teacher was the authority.

Public schools that were set up and funded by the national government pre-date the Constitution. The laws that the Confederation Congress enacted to govern how the Old Northwest Territory would be settled and admitted to the Union included provisions that part of every township bet set aside to generate revenue to pay for a public school. These laws remained in effect under the Constitution since they were a pre-existing obligation of the United States.

Furthermore, in their state of the union messages both George Washington and James Madison, as president, called upon Congress to either create a national university or to provide federal funds for state schools. Contrary to what libertarians believe, the federal government has always had a role in public schools.

Quote:We had to create indebtedness to keep the middle class from becoming wealthy enough to have real political power in their hands.

Read up on Hamilton’s assumption law. The United States was already in debt before the Constitution was written.

Quote:Gun laws must be enacted.

As per the well regulated militia that is called for by the 2nd Amendment, lest fools, traitors and assorted hotheads try to use armed force to overthrow the government while the courts are open and elections are being held on schedule and elected official are yielding their office to their successors when their terms expire.

Quote:We have to elect Supreme Court Justices that will not hesitate at gun confiscation.

What planet are you from? Federal judges in the United States are not elected.

Quote:Having a government that was so afraid of its people that it would never, ever do anything to betray them cannot be considered a safe haven for liars.

A government that has to be afraid of armed rebellion is not sovereign, but then a government that cannot enforce its laws is precisely what libertarians want.

(08-16-2009 05:01 PM)hubcap Wrote:  Bingo, you just confirmed what I suspected. You have been trained very well.

What on earth are you babbling about?

Well answered. Well done, administrators!

Plants are like government bloggers, they swagger in like lambs asking questions waiting for a keyword to trigger a response.

Pardon the sarcasm right off the get go but I pretty well recognized the tells. But I didn't do the banning, I would have welcomed a heated debate. Perhaps this is a recently out of a job census worker.

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(08-16-2009 02:20 PM)dam8169 Wrote:  I just hope the camps have nice bathrooms

LOL!